Showing posts with label debate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label debate. Show all posts
I was wondering when someone was gonna do this...The Kobe/Michael Jordan debate...He is in the convo...
...but this might end that conversation. This chart doesn't even take into consideration the RULES that are now in place. You know the ones that some of you like to cite when we play pickup basketball about people like me 'not being able to touch you' or the VERY STIFF PENALTIES for flagrant fouls. Can you imagine if you weren't able to 'literally' touch Mike? If the Pistons literally weren't allowed to beat him up for years (and he STILL GOT HIS)? Flip side to that is imagining Kobe with teammates that would play like FOR HIM. Seeing what levels he might have gotten to had he been pushed by a Joe Dumars, Rock Richmond, Latrell Spreewell in his prime and the like. What he would have done with a Dennis Johnson dogging him. Sidney Moncrief all over him in a way that Bruce Bowen NEVER could do and watching him rise to the challenge. What would they have done with a 6'8 guard who can finish and shoot a three? Very good debate indeed.
Yeah...yeah..I hear you...you say you couldn't do it then without getting a call. That wasn't all the time and it SURELY wasn't during his first 7 in the League. Possibly longer....Still and all it is a great debate....
Thoughts?
Yeah...yeah..I hear you...you say you couldn't do it then without getting a call. That wasn't all the time and it SURELY wasn't during his first 7 in the League. Possibly longer....Still and all it is a great debate....
Thoughts?
This is a two for one. I am going to 'respond' to another blogger and turn you on to his blog.
July 09, 20108thlight, conversation, debate, Essentials of Cool, Grown Folk Talk, Lebron James, NBA
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All in one fell swoop....But I'mma name names. I don't do the whole "I quote you, not say your name and draw you out" thing...So here we go.
You see, earlier today, like many of you did in your barbershops/social media settings/etc/etc, I got into a 'debate' about this whole Lebron thing. I ,admittedly, questioned a quote by friend (and fellow Steeler fan so you know he is pretty passionate too) about a story he cited on Lebron. He cited this story as the reason why "Lebron is so hated" and gave his OPINION on it. I never intended to try to 'change his mind' about it. After all, I am not here for all of that. I just wanted to know. Period. So I asked. We had nice 'discussion' about it. Then we got to this part...
This is my statement to him. Feel free not to agree. I don't give a shit. It is what I said ON TWITTER.
"....You know, if I were still his age, I might hold him to what he says. Being as though at that time I was just pompous enough to think I even 'started' to figure it all out. So yeah, I could see riding him for saying that as a 21 year old as a 20something. Now? Naw...I know he doesn't know everything at that age. I think you do too. You know good cotdamm well that could change. I would expect you not to hold that 'boy' (and make no mistake, he was but a boy then) to that foolish statement. lol *this is regarding the ESPN quote pictured above*"
and this was his response in his blog..
He made the quote just four years ago when he was 20 or 21 years old. We aren't talking about some 17 year old. He's a grown man that can fight for his country, drive a car and drink legally. Why would I not hold him to what he says? When I was 21 if I said something like that I personally wouldn't back down from it. It's not like he wasn't man enough to be the face of a franchise and have his own shoe and clothing line. If you want to be the King this is part of the job as well.
Now you gotta know we weren't blogging and tweeting at the same time so...You do the math. Plus, I got no response to that on Twitter. I wanted one but 'cause I said some key words in my response that I thought would intimate my 'message'. That is my fault. I wasn't clear. So I will point the words out, clarify them a bit and see if my message is 'clearer'.
" I think you do too. You know good cotdamm well that could change. "
What I am trying to say here is this...To imply that one can't change their mind is pretty reckless in itself. Regardless as to what the topic is. That is a pretty toxic statement/inference/whatever word you would like to use here. While on one hand, I get the whole 'Stand by your word.' mantra you are CLEARLY trying to intimate, I am not going to sit here and clap to being 'Wrong, knowing you are wrong, and just saving face for people who ultimately don't give a shit about you....all for the sake of sticking to your word?' No. I stand by that. Why, 'cause I know what that mentality leads to. I have seen that mentality ruin/mess with many a good life. And career too. (Barkley,Coleman,Reggie,you know the suspects..The ringless ones...) That is a personal thing for me on some level. Everybody is not a star (a hustler/killer/drug dealer/player)....and there is no shame in that. Even if you said that was what you wanted to be when you 'didn't know what it took to do it...'. I said what I said 'cause that is how I was looking at it. I didn't think I would REALLY have to break it down for you. That's my fault though. I will speak clearer next time. So it is a little bit bigger than basketball talk for me. I certainly wouldn't promote that in anything I am saying. @ saying you can't change or change your mind. Saying stuff like you are saying says that to me. Maybe you don't mean it that way but that is how I took it. You and anybody else who feels that way. We will all live though. @ disagreeing.
I am going to leave you with some words that you left for me earlier...
A person's opinion of themselves is a peek into their head.
Now you got more than a peek. Hope I was clear enough that time....
Go follow his blog ya'll. He is pretty good. I mean, I read it and responded right? That is all you need to know.
You see, earlier today, like many of you did in your barbershops/social media settings/etc/etc, I got into a 'debate' about this whole Lebron thing. I ,admittedly, questioned a quote by friend (and fellow Steeler fan so you know he is pretty passionate too) about a story he cited on Lebron. He cited this story as the reason why "Lebron is so hated" and gave his OPINION on it. I never intended to try to 'change his mind' about it. After all, I am not here for all of that. I just wanted to know. Period. So I asked. We had nice 'discussion' about it. Then we got to this part...
This is my statement to him. Feel free not to agree. I don't give a shit. It is what I said ON TWITTER.
"....You know, if I were still his age, I might hold him to what he says. Being as though at that time I was just pompous enough to think I even 'started' to figure it all out. So yeah, I could see riding him for saying that as a 21 year old as a 20something. Now? Naw...I know he doesn't know everything at that age. I think you do too. You know good cotdamm well that could change. I would expect you not to hold that 'boy' (and make no mistake, he was but a boy then) to that foolish statement. lol *this is regarding the ESPN quote pictured above*"
and this was his response in his blog..
He made the quote just four years ago when he was 20 or 21 years old. We aren't talking about some 17 year old. He's a grown man that can fight for his country, drive a car and drink legally. Why would I not hold him to what he says? When I was 21 if I said something like that I personally wouldn't back down from it. It's not like he wasn't man enough to be the face of a franchise and have his own shoe and clothing line. If you want to be the King this is part of the job as well.
Now you gotta know we weren't blogging and tweeting at the same time so...You do the math. Plus, I got no response to that on Twitter. I wanted one but 'cause I said some key words in my response that I thought would intimate my 'message'. That is my fault. I wasn't clear. So I will point the words out, clarify them a bit and see if my message is 'clearer'.
" I think you do too. You know good cotdamm well that could change. "
What I am trying to say here is this...To imply that one can't change their mind is pretty reckless in itself. Regardless as to what the topic is. That is a pretty toxic statement/inference/whatever word you would like to use here. While on one hand, I get the whole 'Stand by your word.' mantra you are CLEARLY trying to intimate, I am not going to sit here and clap to being 'Wrong, knowing you are wrong, and just saving face for people who ultimately don't give a shit about you....all for the sake of sticking to your word?' No. I stand by that. Why, 'cause I know what that mentality leads to. I have seen that mentality ruin/mess with many a good life. And career too. (Barkley,Coleman,Reggie,you know the suspects..The ringless ones...) That is a personal thing for me on some level. Everybody is not a star (a hustler/killer/drug dealer/player)....and there is no shame in that. Even if you said that was what you wanted to be when you 'didn't know what it took to do it...'. I said what I said 'cause that is how I was looking at it. I didn't think I would REALLY have to break it down for you. That's my fault though. I will speak clearer next time. So it is a little bit bigger than basketball talk for me. I certainly wouldn't promote that in anything I am saying. @ saying you can't change or change your mind. Saying stuff like you are saying says that to me. Maybe you don't mean it that way but that is how I took it. You and anybody else who feels that way. We will all live though. @ disagreeing.
I am going to leave you with some words that you left for me earlier...
A person's opinion of themselves is a peek into their head.
Now you got more than a peek. Hope I was clear enough that time....
Go follow his blog ya'll. He is pretty good. I mean, I read it and responded right? That is all you need to know.















